But as a result of my editing Copeia for several years and other work with the herpetological community, I became president of the American Society of Ichthyology and Herpetology, So that, again, gave additional exposure in terms of both the international field, because it was the principal journal in the area. So in addition to animal behavior, I mean, my herpetological interest was continued. So I had a lot of exposure on that front, but those are the principal avenues in which I was engaged.
