Well, the staff was, they were accepting and as I say with Snedigar, the curator of reptiles and amphibians, so he was certainly embracing, especially with my museum background. And the other principal curator was Karl Plath, who was curator birds. And Karl had an artist background. Indeed was still a practicing artist while he was a curator of birds. So in terms of the, shall we say the professional administrative staff, there certainly wasn’t resistance, et cetera. I mean, they were all curious about what I might get into and what I might foster. And among the keepers of the time, there wasn’t real embracement of such a position as I occupied. And then indeed, early on one of the first grad students I assisted was studying the products in the urine of primates, trying to get a handle on the, so to speak indirectly on the genetics of the creatures.
