And that was in terms of research and why they favored me in the, (George chuckles) why they even considered me in terms of this position, God knows, but as I say, I had previous acquaintance with K. P. Schmidt and that’s how I came to Brookfield, because of them. And it was certainly an unusual position at the time. The only other research position in American zoos and aquariums was actually at the New York Aquarium. It was quite an unusual situation.