The bird curator was actually Terry Strauser, who went on then to work at Disney as he was quite a talented artist. And he went to work in the animation team at Disney, in Florida, designing and building exhibits. He actually also designed the lion tiger exhibit at Miami Metro Zoo, which was an architectural thing, looking like an Indian Maharaja’s palace and some of these things. The reptile curator was the famous Lou Pastore. And Lou Pastore was one of the legends in her business back in the ’50s and ’60s put together a fantastic collection at Ohio at the time. He was all into animal care. Didn’t give a darn about naturalistic exhibits. As long as the animal was in a sterile atmosphere that he could keep meticulously clean, make sure they had no parasites and feed them and all he was happy.