Well, I think the role there was making sure that the Zoo Society understood what we did. They were giving us money. And so whether it was the Zoo Society or the volunteer or the docent organization, I always wanted them to be part of what we were doing, part of the team. And so when we would have a baby pygmy hippo born, I’d say to people in the Zoo Society, “Hey, come on over, take a look at this.” Check it out. “This is cool.” Make them part of it. And especially, the development people, because then when they would bring donors through, they had, they were much smarter about what was going on. And as the Zoo Society, they would want curators and the assistant director and other, but they want people directly involved in the animal management to do the tours with some of these big donors to be with them because you were the knowledgeable person. And the donors, they might like to be with a development person, fine, but now, they were with the animal guys.
