Well, the first birth, Lester Fisher loved gorillas and we loved them. And Kisoro was the father and Mumbi was the mother, and this was the first birth and we had a medical committee. And we had an obstetrician on there, Dr. Mel Bailey. And he consulted with us ’cause you know, baby gorilla is like a baby child, so to speak. And that, one day, all of a sudden, we saw her doing rolling and rolling and it was, she was obviously in distress in what was going on and we’ve, “Oh, baby’s coming.” So as it turned out, it was at five o’clock, which was could have been at three in the morning, but we were there. Yeah. Actually a good thing you were there. So Lester Fisher was at his house. He was having some people over. They all came over.
