Well, I think at one time, the curators or the zoologists and certainly those positions were, it had a lot of latitude. And I said to Dennis Merritt, and I said to some other people, but mostly to Dennis, I said, “I saw, I’d like to do my work on elephant shrews,” which is a little insect of war from Africa. And he, you know, “Yeah, if you could find them.” and so they allowed. (interviewer speaking faintly) Yeah. But they allowed me to pursue it in such a way that I was able to get the animals ultimately, do management with them, pretty successfully as it turned out from, no other zoo, did it. And we were able to get this. So the zoo was pretty generous in allowing you to pursue your educational goals and to use the zoo resources, so to speak, a positive thing, to get this done. So they were, they didn’t have helped me write the paper, but they gave me all the information, allowed me to build the crates, the management boxes for the shrews and so forth. Absolutely.
