And which was a wonderful thing. He taught me a ton of things, talk about it, but I was, and, but then you got the drudge work too. So they had a machine that was make signs. They called it engravograph and they, you had to make the signs. So no one wanted to make the signs. So they gave it to the zoologist, the kid. And I was there. I was happy to do it. And I remember they said, “Make signs for all the animals in the Children’s Zoo.” So I had to make signs for every animal.