There’s very few zoologists positions in Chicago. So I, and I knew that as a keeper, I had a bit of a leg up. They knew who I was, that was a positive. And one of the positions left, George Irving had retired. And so there was no more general curator. So they made people curators and some, well, they had this one position and it was vacant, zoologist at the time. And there was another young kid working there who’d worked for the pathologist, and we both applied for the job. And he got the job and I didn’t.