Well, the zoo at the time, Lincoln Park had what they called a lot of animal keepers. Some were civil service, but many of them were TAs, temporary appointees. And they liked having temporary appointees ’cause Lincoln Park was somewhat political, Chicago Park District. And they liked having part-time TAs. They didn’t want you to be civil service, then you weren’t be holding anybody at a civil service position. But ultimately, after many, many, many years, they held a civil service exam. I wanted to be an animal keeper so I took the exam, and I scored very high on the exam. I wanna say I was number one.