Well, there was someone who was in charge of the Children’s Zoo and the names as I recollect, at the time they were called zoologists. Dr. Lester Fisher was the director of the zoo at the time when I first started as a summer person. There was a guy named Gene Hartz who was the assistant director. And he had been assistant director under Marlin Perkins, but he was still the assistant director. They had three zoologist. They had a general curator. His name was George Irving. And I guess, in his day, he had been quite the guy, but he was an older guy now. And he was just essentially doing the time.
