Well, the keeper force, when I first came to the zoo, the keeper force was all men and a lot of them had been war veterans of Korean War and World war II and so forth. There were only women were in the Children’s Zoo. And as I say, their title was zoo leader. They did pretty much the same thing the keepers did, but they didn’t get the pay and they didn’t have the title as animal keeper. And so it was essentially a male dominated, older guys workforce that I came in. And when I came in, I was the college kid. There weren’t very many college kids at the time. Now, the summer kids were all college, but then they left.