Washington was segregated almost still at that time, just breaking away. And grandparents, these were the grandparents with little daughters. So there’s all those little things that were involved in it. But I can still remember the absence of my father there for a couple months and the stress he was under. I remember it very well. But it was, a heck of a way to say it, but it was the emphasis for the fact that the zoo was falling apart all over the place. You know, obviously the war years declined and afterwards it just, the zoo, the great zoo of the 30s and so forth had a huge collection ‘cos of Walker, ‘cos Walker brought in all these small mammals and everything so he’d get pictures for his book. And then they were in the small mammal, they had the greatest small mammal collection in the world probably.
