No, no. It was just one of those things he just knew was part of it. He was a Goodwill ambassador. I mean, he took over animals to Dugal once and came back with Algerian Slenderhorn Gazelles or no, Algerian Dorcas Gazelles, and swans to Sukarno for Komodo Dragons, a pretty good deal. And he spent a lot of time doing consulting from the national level as the National Zoo director. He’d get asked through the government and the state department and everything to stop and visit the zoo and give him your comments and see what they think. And he enjoyed that, he enjoyed that. And part of that, all this traveling, hearing about all this and seeing all the pictures and hearing the stories growing up, some of the stuff seeped in in the dinner table conversations about that.