Going from the other perspective first, we had support internally from the AZA, the elephant TAG people, the AZA board. We had supporting letters and documentation from the WAZA board. We had and got support from major international zoo directors, personally, Zurich, Switzerland and Leipzig and other zoos, (indistinct) and Chester. I mean, we went and made a list and got those letters to the IUCN rhino specialist group was one of our biggest supporters ‘cos they had flat out said that Swaziland had the best rhino habitat in Southern Africa. And that was predicated on the fact that the elephants were destroying it. And with this drought. And we had some, Ian… Not every field elephant conservationist was against us.
