There’s a lot of good wildlife and biology programs at the other state schools. Wichita State really didn’t have it. But we were able to develop a relationship with Friends University, which was originally a Quaker school. It’s got some connection still, but when I became director, we had a problem of the guy that was running the program there, our problems at the zoo, it was a mess. I came within a hair’s breath, a hair’s breath of shutting it down. It was one of the hardest decisions I had to make that I knew knew because it was a mess. I was embarrassed. It was not living up to what we thought it should be or could be.
