Again, I had promised Ron five years and actually it was at six years the first job I applied for came up, Seattle, the one that David Town got, and it was a good experience for interviewing. And I interviewed for many more, pretty competitively came in second or third depending if they listed you or told you why you didn’t get the job. I accepted a job at Auckland and 12 hours later, I had to call ’em back and say that I just couldn’t do it. The long story on that one is probably not worth telling, but I had relatives living in New Zealand and had been to New Zealand quite a bit. It’s a tropical paradise, but I realized that on a professional basis, it would not allow me to grow and would fulfill my need because I wanted this next job to be the job to spend my career at. I didn’t wanna hop around from directorship to directorship or anything. And at the time, I was actually a final three candidate for the job at the Fresno Zoo and I sent them a notice and pulled my name out because of the job at Wichita. Ron retired earlier than we all anticipated.