It was one of only two or three that I caught him on something. This guy was well versed in knowing his biology of the collection and animals. But admittedly, he didn’t get out in the zoo hardly at all. At the end, he had a special interest in the domestic animals and spent quite a bit of time down in the domestic concept. And there’s no question because of him, they have a couple of goose and chicken breeds that are still around. He was one of the founding supporters of this within America, what was now the American Conservancy dealing with rare and endangered forms of domesticated livestock. He was on the board there. He was willing to think outside the box on zoo design, which is what I really appreciated.
