And yeah, we’d talk for five, 10, 15 minutes. Louis was one of those guys that got out in the zoo every morning doing a walkthrough and every afternoon for a few minutes somewhere, he knew the zoo. And you could also tell in the afternoon walks, you could tell whether he was enjoying himself or not by those radio calls. One out of whoever and if it was not a good day, you were hoping you weren’t gonna hear your number. My number was 13. Well, now when you started, you really had limited as a zoologist or general curator or that title as third in line, you really only had limited keeper experience.
