The head of the department knew the zoo world, knew the personalities because of the combined National Park and Recreation Association, the AAZPA within a division, so he knew who all the players were. And it had other zoo people that had gone to the program there, George Bidel Jr. After me, you know, Chris DiSabato had gone and went there. And I was able to do a zoo thesis, which helped me get the job, my first full-time job at the San Antonio Zoo. So let’s start. Now you’re beginning your zoo profession on your own.