So we need the animals to have that visual cue, that auditory cue that so that people can have a part in that decision making on changing their behavior that might help change the behavior of where the animals live. You had mentioned that, in March of 2016, the CEO of SeaWorld, Joel Manby, talked about the end of killer whale breeding program and that it had been debated within staff for a while. And people had given their input, but finally a decision was made. Correct, everybody chatted about it. Well, not everybody, it was a small group, but the veterinarians and myself and others talked about it and talked to the board. And they made a decision, and that’s when I became an emeritus curator.
