I saw an evolution in a lot of different areas. I saw an evolution in terms of our ability to do more conservation and more research and more education. I saw the ability of the animal activist extremists to start creating a picture of doom and gloom, and we do poorly, criticizing us, protesting. So this is even before the advent of social media and the different tools that are in play today. So I could see it. Some of the arguments we’d have, with the Humane Society of the United States, for instance, was, “These animals shouldn’t be in captivity.” And I’d say, “Well, they’re doing fine in captivity. They’re doing fine in our care. And we’re we’re part of education.
