And so I went to Amsterdam and I met a lot of beautiful people, great people. And, you know, there was a dolphinarium in there at Harderwijk. And we met other people from Europe and other aquariums and started sharing information. And then I started going to the International Marine Animal Trainers Association meetings that was formed around the same time. And then, later, AZA, or AAZPA, as it was called in the very beginning.
