And when you’re working around animals, especially wild animals it’s combination of both. And so just as I would tell new employees at the zoo, hopefully if you’re scared of animals, you don’t belong here. If you lose a respect for that animal, someday potentially you may be sorry and get hurt, so I try to go by that same philosophy. We’ve had a lot of close calls and a lot of medical issues around the zoo over the years, but happily never a serious incident, such as for example, my predecessor, Marlin Perkins being bitten twice, I think during his tenure in Chicago, went to the hospital after some venomous snake bite that almost done him in. Well, in the 1960s you had to travel or did travel to Africa to acquire gorillas.
