In other words, they started developing their own education area, their own research people, their own everything, and I felt then and believe today that it has one primary role, as I see it in the profession, and that is the service the membership. The AAZPA doesn’t exist, now got a different name. I think world’s, not the World’s Zoo Organization, American Zoo Association. AZA, I think that its function is not to become a big thing unto itself with its own staff, and bureaucracy, and payrolls, and that. It’s there to help the various institutions, of which they’re probably a couple of hundred now around the country who are members, how to help them do their work, and their mission, and so on. So that’s kind of an ongoing, I think bureaucratic decision-making that the organization has to work through. I saw it grow from just a group of wonderful animal people to all these other facets of the growth of the organization in these other directions. I remember so clearly as I’m sitting here now, my wife, Wendy, who was into direct marketing.
