And a few of the people start talking, “Perhaps it’s time that we start our own organization.” And so that evolved, and we found in Oglebay Park, West Virginia, a place that could become a home for our own little zoo association. And there were a group of us. I was, I think at the time that we did this split and created our own little AAZPA, I think I was maybe vice president, and a man in Kansas Gary Clark, was the president that year. And we proceeded to start our own little group, we had zero budgets, so all of us on the board, big time that we were, each threw $25 into the kitty, and that was our operating budget for that year to start with. And then, of course, we laid on a do’s and so on. And I think a lady named Peg Dankworth was our first executive director of the AAZPA for many years. Whoever at that time was able to do it. We got the Oglebay Park system to give us space, we had our couple of rooms or an office in one of their buildings there, which I think got for free at that time, we had no money to pay rent.