But anyway, she was then, and still is a trustee of this Animal Foundation, and I’ve been part of it for 30 or 40 years. And so three times a year at our meetings, Betty and I would always have a dinner together at one of the nights of the convention, the meetings that we had. And over the years, we got to be good friends an unusual dynamic, wonderful lady, incredible sense of humor. At board meetings she would be just like one would see her on television, she’d go of zingers, and had all of us in a happy state of mind and laughing about things. And I’ve always kind of thought that it was a special privilege to get to know Betty because she cared about two things in life. In the later years of her life, that I was most acquainted with her. One was Los Angeles Zoo, she was a member of the board there, the Friends of the Zoo and the Morris Animal Foundation, and animals were an important part of her life. And I shared that kind of feeling, and so Betty and I have been friends for 30, 40 years.