Well, I learned the hard way that working around zoo animals, you had stress factors involved. And my goal was to get in and get out of any situation that you were in, including surgery with the collection. And so there Eric and I’d be scrubbing up together doing an operation, and he of course, wanted to make sure that every last iota of perfection was done in the surgery, and I wanted to get the heck out of there, accomplishing the goal and getting the animal back on its feet. And I had a few frustrating hours that way. I loved Eric in spite of it and maybe because of it, that he was so perfectionist. But he definitely stepped in and did his bit, and I continued to fill in as the doctor. And then finally was able to build the hospital and bring Eric on full-time.