I’m trying to recall how our interaction was during that time with Marlin. I’m sure that he helped me know a little bit about how the Park District operated and how the zoo fitted into the operation, but Marlin was not there much. Marlin was almost a person non-grata or whatever the expression is. Marlin’s leaving was not a happy situation for him or the parks system. In fact, historically, and I can’t remember exactly the time, but one year maybe give or take before this time period, Marlin was fired. And what happened was he was on safari in Africa, and as part of his ongoing “Zoo Parade” work, Marlin became Mr. Television. And the commissioners felt strongly that it was sort of a full-time job for him, and he no longer was a zoo director. And I have vague recollections at that time, I think that Lear Grimmer was maybe gonna be the acting zoo director at the moment, at the time that Marlin, and there were headlines in the paper, Mr. Perkins fired, and then somehow some other factors came into play and Marlin was rehired.