And I said, “Sure.” And so then I think two or three times a year, we would do an animal health show on “Zoo Parade.” And that’s how I got into television, I guess, and looking back. And so Marlin he was full of himself. After all, he became a real legendary person in Chicago and the country, and everybody knew Marlin. And if I went to a dinner with him and his wife, everybody in the restaurant recognized Marlin, the big man. And so my impression of Marlin has always been a very comfortable, good one. He was not an academic, Marlin never finished college. He started working in St. Louis in the Reptile House, I think his first or second year in school, and decided to quit college. And he was a reptile person or herp man, and decided to do his career in the reptile area of zoological stuff, he was committed.
