And there was a woman named Irene Castle McLaughlin, a famous dancer of some era back in those days. And she was a strong anti-vivisectionist, and she was battling a man named Andrew Ivey, I believe was the head of physiology at Northwestern Medical School. And Dr. Ivey was her nemesis, and he was a famous researcher. And a Wes said, “Why don’t you go down “and talk to Dr. Ivey?” And I did, and he talked me into coming to the medical school for a year to look after all of the animals there. And I lived at Abbott Hall, which is right there on Chicago Avenue or Superior Avenue, I guess it is in the inner drive. And so I spent a year at Northwestern, and a Wes in turn somehow had gotten acquainted with Marlin Perkins who had just come from Buffalo, I think the year before. And Wes would get on the phone and say, Les, I’m going to the zoo tomorrow at such and such a time, or gonna go this afternoon, whatever the time period might be. “And if you’re free, would you ride along?” And so occasionally I’d end up going with Wes to see some animals at Lincoln Park.