Well, Fairfield Osborn certainly influenced the direction of the zoo in the early days, but it must be remembered that Jim Oliver was only a director there for a year, and that John Tee-Van retired rather quickly after his illness and Osborn died in 1969. So all of these people were wonderful and all contributed to my thinking and they helped me as best they could, but they weren’t there very long. Fair Osborn died only three years after I became general director and Jim Oliver had taken another position at the American Museum and John Tee-Van was gone.