We had very little ability to talk with them, there were too many people and we weren’t commonly aware of the fact that they were coming. So it was not the kind of situation that one could develop as a conservation effort, specifically. But on the other hand, it reminded people of where the zoo was, of its reach and what it was doing. So I suspect that Kotch was right and it was worthwhile and I was probably wrong, even though I don’t like the idea of rented pandas.