So making a bigger pool of people who would have the same ideas, the same commitment that we were trying to create, was it the base of what I was trying to do, that was early days, I was trying to find out what could be done. And I found that there was a lot that could be done. As to why they didn’t follow up, I don’t know. May be, it’s like asking why there isn’t any ice cream left in the cone when you’ve eaten it. That’s a good question trigger. You’ve written over 250 papers on animals, zoos philosophy, when you first began writing these papers, the topics were more about specific animals and management, and husbandry, in the ’60s, you started writing more about conservation and the value of zoos. These types of papers have increased.